I am loving this guy's writing, so I bet my readers will too. I added it to my blog roll.
There are so many things I love about GoneSavage's writing that I don't know where to begin. The sensuality, the sense of adventure, the freedom, the headline "Don't Call it A Comeback" ... Lol :-)
Mmmmmmmmm ... sexxxxxxyyyyy!!!
Check him out HERE.
Oh, and Tenmagnet added me to his blog roll. So there, bitches! Lol, I just had to say that out loud. :-p
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Having found your blog about a week ago really encouraged me to get back on my path of inspiring others. Inspire literally means to “breathe in.” So thank you for that.
Your writing is thoughtful, mindful, and full of spirit. I’m reminded that the great paradox here is that the more we become emotionally independent, the more we realize the spiritual connection we all share. We probably walked right past each other on the playa last year...
So here’s to real, vulnerable people enriching the field of sexual communication. Men and women that have really walked on the wild side and have taken a risk or two.
To all of Erika’s readers, let me know what you get out of my writings. Even my stuff from three years ago, while it may be a bit tactical, I think there is an enthusiasm that shines through. It is raw, candid, and full of action. I guess you could say I have always been a bit aggressive about getting the experiences that I desire and deserve.
The things I am working on now are not an intellectual justification of my own authority. I just want to connect with you all in some way. I’m just here to testify.
Jason
~GoneSavage
PS. Enthusiasm trumps technique always.
GoneSavage is indeed a skilled pua. I seen him in action and he has a 'no rules' approach to pu. One reason that makes him super successful is that he is totally cool with not following any rules from society or community pu wing rules... he has no problem hooking up with other people's gfs, taking other puas' sets, hooking with puas' gfs, etc... Nothing against GoneSavage, I seen other guys, a few here and there, do the same thing. Hooking up with brothers,cousin's gfs, friends' wives, etc... The person hooking up with gfs of family and friends think all cool and fun that night and no nobody's feelings get hurt and that's not true. So these guys that play with 'no rules' do get laid more.... All I can say is Congrats to them... they are more successful. So does the end (getting laid plenty) justify the means?
Erika, what does the ACIM say about playing life's game with this kind of attitude? My intepretation is that ACIM in some way is cool with GoneSavage and others satisfying themselves regardless of whether he honors the other puas(or brothers aka other gods are offended or not). I guess.... my interpretation of ACIM in this area is the guys' who get offended by those with 'no rules' is their issue huh.... Erika, is that your interpretation too or is ACIM saying honor your brothers as gods and see the world with abundance so it is not necessary to hookup with everybody's gfs or take their sets just because you can? Does hooking up with other people's or puas' gfs, wives, other puas' sets truly reflect an attitude of abundance that GS himself talks about? There are definitely pros and cons of 'no rules'. Pros is getting a more action than following the rules. Cons... someone gets hurt... but fuck them right? My dick is more important regardless of how someone else feels ;)
Again, nothing against GS and other guys doing this ... just observations.... I do not condone or support their views... it just their spiritual paths...just thought it would make an interesting discussion thread.
GoneSavage,
Welcome. It's been really fun reading your comments. I'd be very interested in your response to Friend of Papi's comment.
Friend of Papi,
I don't know you and have not yet met GoneSavage, so I have absolutely no idea whether what you say is an accurate description of GoneSavage's approach (so I prefer to hear from him directly). It's so important that we keep our minds and hearts open and not assume things about other people. Either way, your comment raises some interesting issues, so I'm going to start another blog post about the whole idea of exclusivity in relationships. PUA ethics, if you will ;-)
GS knows Papi quite well. He stayed with him until he wore out his welcome. He was asked to leave because some of those issues came up. I hung out with GS for several days in Vegas. He knows his pu stuff well.
This will be an interesting discussion ... let's say hypothetically if I invited a GS or guys like him to my house and I have a wife/gf, then he fucks her, then I'm not going to be angry because I allowed a GS-like personality in my house and I am the one who created this situation... Let me give a comparison... it is like being back in South Africa and going on a safari....tourists stay in a well guarded villa/resort. At night, there are hyenas howling and would love come into resort and eat us alive. If I let the hyenas in..., duh... and they eat my family, who fault is it? A GS-like personality is just a wild animal 'no rules'. In their own mind, they are not doing anything wrong... they are just trying to survive.... How can you take it personally when dealing with a wild animal? The pua living in the wild kingdom with his model of the world operating like this just doesnt know any better.... Is this type of personality to be trusted for dating and relationship advice and even inspiration advice?
Maybe, GS has changed and turned a new leaf over the years... Everybody does deserve to be forgiven... including the murderers, rapists, etc... but would you invite a former murderer or rapist to your house for dinner? .... with me that is a tough one. I probably have dinner with them in a public setting :)
I like all the drama....
In the PUA community there is more drama then there is blood on a tampon holding in a miscarriage.
Anger and resentment get you no where...the truth will set you free and the truth is being free.
And I will say this myself, I like that people bring up the ACIM, but reality it is something that I have done for personal change. Slating my opinions to it defeats its purpose. That is why you don't see it in my writings.
I have done tons of things that have helped me. When my ego wants to write about them, I try and translate them to help who is out there. I have lots of experience with a lot of people who have made dramatic changes in their lives and it always seems to be the simplicity of experience, strength and hope that bring this all to light.
Those are all free.
I have pissed off a lot of people in my life and people have pissed me off...the judgment of things is irrelevant in spiritual growth. It is what you do with life, the transformation, the translation that makes a difference.
Judgment is irrelevant... as teachers, dating coaches or lightworkers if Erika is intending to do with this spiritual blog...
Do we have some responsibility to help those who are unconscious or asleep be aware of the dark side? Let's say.... if a couple who is not very conscousnessly aware and still sleep in their dreams and they go to a GS-like personality for relationship advice.... then, later he finds out a GS-like coach is boning his wife...
Is that a judgment or observation? If we know better, do we just let it slide or try to help?
Let me give you some examples... a wonderful movie is the Moses Code, a favorite spiritual movie of mine. James Twynman talks about how he forgiven the person that murdered his wife. But, if you look deeper, James was divorced and did not even live with this woman for many years. If he twisted the truth in this movie, does the public deserve to know? To me, it is still a darn good movie... Another example, anyone that have heard of Carmine Baffa? He trained some of forefathers of the seduction community including Ross Jefferies, Tom Vizzini, others... He is truly a rare phonomeon on this planet. He is highly persuasive and skilled with NLP and hypnosis.... so good that he convinced highly intelligent professional like MDs, corporate executives, and other clients to offer their wives and teenage girls to him for sex. Now, he is in the Atlanta jail for 15 counts of rape and sexual assault. He got lost in his ego and got wallowed up in the dark side. Does the public deserve to know of people like him and what he can do with unconscious people? If you, Erika, and other pu instructors know of guys playing the pu game in the dark side, do potential pu students or women deserve to get a warning or do you turn the other cheek and let them experience the dark side?
These are questions ... for the enlightened ones to reflect on.... Whatever you choose to do is cool with me. Namaste!
What I like about his blog is that he's incredibly honest, well spoken, and he's concise. Solid writer. I truly enjoyed his stuff, thanks for the link, Erika.
I am not sure what specific situation you are talking about, but even back in my 2005 journey I did not intentionally encourage anyone’s “target” or "girlfriend" to hookup with me. So many guys go out and are purely socializing, not flirting, and not saying anything remotely sexual, no one can tell there is even a hookup in progress. If I've unintentionally done this to you, then let me know how I can make things right. The worst way to communicate is to judge someone and push them to feel wrong. To put them on the defensive. Again, if I owe you something, and I’ve somehow allowed you to feel like a victim for four years, let me know how I can make things right.
FOP,
I wasn't around during this incident that seems to have transpired between you, Gonesavage, and this girl, so I can't speak to what was said -- but if the girlfriend wasn't in an exclusive relationship with you, then you don't have much right to feel betrayed.
I almost get the impression from your posts that you don't have the masculine fortitude to communicate your authentic desires -- and if you failed to explicitly communicate to both GoneSavage and this girl that you were exclusive with her, then whose fault is it really that someone else slept with her?
Women follow the man's lead -- if you weren't acting like she was your exclusive girlfriend (and if you had not communicated your desire for exclusivity with her), then she had no obligation to assume she was in an exclusive relationship with you.
Honest, open communication from a man will encourage the same behavior from women. And it will absolutely eradicate much of the miscommunication (and the hurt feelings which can result from miscommunication) between a man and woman.
GS reached out to you in this above post. I would encourage you to contact him.
"At night, there are hyenas howling and would love come into resort and eat us alive. If I let the hyenas in..., duh... and they eat my family, who fault is it?"
Dude, it would be your fault for letting the hyenas in.....
GS, Perhaps, you may want to clear things up with Papi Chulo. He and others had issues with you not honoring community pu rules. You never offended me. Even if you have fucked my gf, wife, or anyone else, I'd would have forgiven you a long time ago... Forgiveness is also not forgetfulness... :)
Since this is a spiritual blog, I want to bring this to everyone's attention of 'dark side' with pu. Lots of guys play the game with 'no rules.' Is that healthy for them? I dont know... I cant answer for them. GS, if you played in the dark side, then admit you have. I have in some areas...now I dont use those same tactics anymore. If you are a follower of ACIM or any modern spiritual txt, then there is really nothing wrong with what you did... you were just unconscious. Ex, a child breaking things in a house... did he do anything wrong? No... he just doesnt know any better. For guys not following or honoring pu rules and just doing the OPP thing, they just dont know any better. If they knew better, they would have done differently :)
Personally, I rather enjoyed observing your game when I hung with out with Papi. Your behavior flexibility with the 'no rules' approach is quite fascinating. As mentioned earlier, one of teachers, Carmine Baffa taught his students to play life with 'no rules.' Look where it got him. Teaching 'no rules' approach was powerful but if you play in the dark side, there are consequences. I think if you teach 'no rules' in the light and be truthful with your shadow side, you may have plenty of followers and admirers.... just my two cents. Peace.
Well, my goodness, I'm certainly glad that we're getting all this aired! To think it's been carried around for so long.
I'm a big believer in honest communication. Which you guys are doing, right now, in the comments section :-)
If a guy is going to bone his friend's girlfriend, then I vote for being upfront about it and talking about it first, or I suppose immediately afterwards if it happens spontaneously.
I also agree with some of the commentators that assuming exclusivity when it hasn't been discussed is just setting oneself up for misunderstandings.
Friend of Papi... uh.. your pseudo highmindedness and weaksauce as spirituality creeps me out way more than a guy who would flirt with my girlfriend.
Well, friend of a friend, thank you for admitting that this communication has nothing to do with you.
I can assure you that I have never slept with Mr. Chulo's girlfriend nor is there any instance -- applying ample imagination -- that can be misconstrued as such.
I will contact him at once just in case he has some sort of resentment toward me and has sent a messenger of pity.
I value DIRECT communication as much as HONEST communication, so I will find out FIRST-HAND what is causing this potential sense of victimhood so that I can offer my apology and make things right.
Thank You,
Jason Savage
GS,
Thank you for being willing to apologize to Papi. He was a bit unhappy with you not observing gaming rules. I think he would appreciate that.
Is that true you never hooked with other puas' gfs? If so, I stand corrected... my understanding is inaccurate, and I sincerely apologize for lumping you in the category of playing the game at all costs.
Also, do you see the intention of this discussion is to bring greater awareness of dark issues guys are dealing with and may not be directed toward you personally? Perhaps, the community can be better be served if those issues are addressed.
Peace.
GS,
I am curious if you indeed reached out to Papi... if you do try to apologize, I would avoid using the 'frame' of looking at him as a victim or seeing him as a person looking for pity. If you do, your apology will not come across as genuine... If you someone did that to you, do you truly feel the apology is sincere?
For those that dont know Papi, he is Asian.... Asians are cultured trained to avoid confrontation. Even if they resented you, they normally would not say anything if you confront them. They will most likely say everything is ok but in their heart, they have never forgiven you.
Even if you talk to Papi, I dont know for sure if he will give you the real reasons why he asked to leave after staying a few months at his LA pad. Bottomline, he didnt see you as wing who cared about anyone but yourself. On multiple times, when he was gaming girls, you perceived you as not honoring SC rules. In the spirit of SC, a good wing would make a collaborative effort and assist follow brothers in the seduction process.... He perceived that instead of helping, you took the girls whenever you had an opportunity. You never did that with me but I did get a similiar vibe when hanging out with you. I sensed that you had no interest in playing team ball. That's ok too. Nothing wrong with that. Maybe, you play the game differently now... The intention of this discussion is... can we play the game collaboratively, have a ton of fun, have a ton of sex, and be successful without causing other brothers unneccessary suffering?
You may reply back calling me a victim or a person looking for pity. You may not see value with this post at all. That's ok. I can respect you whatever choose to do. I have done things in my past where good friendships ended because of my selfish behaviors and even when I confronted them and apologize, I would not never get the truth, real reasons the friendships ended.
I hope this helps... Take care.
Friend of Papi,
For my own sense of clarity, what is it you are wanting from GS? Mostly to be heard, it seems like. It seems like you would like some acknowledgment of the hurt feelings that happened a few years ago. Some reassurance that going forward PUAs will act toward each other in a way that communicates respect, honesty, and abundance?
Help me out here, because from my perspective Papi also needs to take responsibility here for his own healing. Sometimes we don't get acknowledgment from a particular person, but that doesn't mean we can't make ourselves whole.
Erika,
I appreciate your comment... yes, indeed Papi has responsibility. Whether he truly forgives or not is Papi issue. He only hurts himself if he doesnt.
The intentions are ....
1) can SC brotherhood be heathlier because of understanding these common situations and misunderstandings? Isnt that your intention as well?
2) trying to help GS or others see a perspective of why good friendships can end and the consequences of the choices he made and behaving the way caused it... Again, there are consequence of making certain choices and certain choices create certain outcomes... Do you want the outcome of resentment, anger, jealousy, death of good friendships, physical injuries or physical dealth? or.. Do you want respect, harmony, peace, abundance, inspiration, etc? Perhaps, this discussion will help people become more conscious of their behaviors and the choices they make and ultimately improve the quality of their own lives... Do we have a better world if people operate like this? You decide...
I hope this helps... My kindest regards:)
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